Having a Spiritually Competent Conversation (or at least the impression of it)
Jul 16th by Jon- Tagged in:
- Guest Post
(I’m sorting through dozens of awesome guest posts right now. One that came my way is from Michael Kelly. You might remember him from the prosperity gospel post. He writes great stuff and this is proof of that. Enjoy.)
Perhaps you’ve been in an awkward situation like this one. You are leaving a conversation about Lady GaGa and Skittles. It was an enjoyable time, and you felt like you held your own nicely. People appreciated your wit and cultural relevance. But though you are adept in conversations like these, you find yourself totally lost in the atrium of the church lobby.
You’ve finally found a church where the give-away coffee isn’t Foldgers but Starbucks and where the donuts aren’t from Publix but Krispy Kreme. But in the midst of the pre-worship snacking, you often discover that you stuff yourself full of fried batter so you don’t have to reveal your lack of spiritual vocabulary and competence to those around you:
Person 1: “This morning I was reading about the relationship between the Solomonic dynasty and reflecting on the kingdom implications regarding the centrality of the covenantal promises.”
You: [Take a bite and nod.]
Person 2: “Really. That sounds intriguing. But does the authorship of 2 Kings play any part in such an interpretation? Recent discoveries lead me to believe that the temple dimensions might have more to do with the new Jerusalem than the old.”
You: [Another bite.]
Person 3: “You know, Chrystostom reflected on the consummation of such a kingdom – more specifically, the pneumatological implications as revealed in the dedicatory prayer.”
You: “This donut is good.”
Let’s see if we can avoid those extra calories, and at the same time, make sure that you’re the life of the pre-church party.
1. Be a name-dropper, but be the right name –dropper.
Anybody can talk about Mark Driscoll or Tim Keller. Those guys are in more places than vampire TV shows. So be careful when you whip out an “according to Driscoll…” statement. Much safer to go older. Much, much older. Thomas Aquinas is your friend. So is Tertullian. And when you need to drop the Ace of Spiritual Spades, bring a little Augustine. Go big, or go home.
For example: “I see what you’re saying. But I think Augustine might disagree.” Then just walk away. Don’t look back.
2. Make adjectives out of nouns.
Words can be played with. You can take pretty much any word and make it into a verb or adjective. To do so, especially with a reflective pause mid-sentence, will give the absolute assurance to any listener that you know exactly what you’re talking about.
For example: “I appreciate the missionalizing of the narrative text so much.”
Or, to combine point 1 and point 2: “I find myself becoming more and more (reflective pause here) Tertullianed as time goes on.
3. Claim an exemption to the conversation.
Because we are all divided up into believing camps, a big word describing your personal doctrinal tendencies can allow you to save face and get out of an awkward conversation. You might consider becoming a “premillineal dispensationalist.” Or perhaps you subscribe to “pneumatological ecclesiology.” Great. The longer the better. With a long enough word, you can shut down the conversation.
For example: “I’d love to join in this conversation, but I’m a premillennial dispensationalist. So I think you know what I think.” Bam.
Not so tough, is it? Use the suggestions liberally in order to bolster your spiritual competency (or at least the impression of it).
Have you ever felt out of place in a church conversation?
(For more from Michael check out his blog.
Comments
This post is even funnier when read with the Old Spice man voice. See what catching up does to you?
Just tried that. It really does sound funnier
Some of the most brilliant people in the world can take a complex issue and make it so even a little kid can understand it. For example, Stephen Hawking is very good at this when it comes to physics. Big words are ok, but I think it's better to be well understood by those around you than to sound super smart…just a thought…
Have you seen Simple English Wikipedia?
And Hawking quoted Augustine in his book "Brief History of Time" as I recall.
i like to just yell out, "i can do miracles!"
The bit about pneumatological ecclesiology reminds me that the teleological suspension of the ethical still relates to Kierkegaard's Single Individual amidst the "crowd" of Church. I mean seriously, can the Church community ever really adapt to the "absolute" of God's individual command over and against the ethical-moral blanket of Church dogmatics?
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……………….doooooooooooooooouuuuughnuts!!!
Pure Brilliance!!
Love it!!
I've always liked throwing in the "eschatological" perspective, and then referencing a bunch of historical Jesus scholars (real ones, as opposed to Jesus seminar). Another method is to use a quote from the Bible to knock down the theory of Person #1 (or 2), with the following as an example, "As [Insert name of Historical Jesus scholar Here] says, the road to the Philological Temple Interpretation is hard, and those who follow it completely are few." (The example is shamelessly borrowed from N.T. Wright, although modified slightly)
I am inclined to go with "This donut is GOOD!" and let people think it is just me kidding around.
Where does Chesterton stand in name dropping status. I like to quote “A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it” every so often.
Some of observations:
1) For some reason it is alright for two doctors to converse using medical vocabulary without someone getting upset about those $15 words.
2) Every specialized study builds its own specialized vocabulary so that we can shove a paragraph into one word. I can do this to some extent in at least three areas and have been accused of using "high priced words" in each.
3) The hardest part of learning to speak about theology is avoiding the land mines from people who would appear to know what they are talking about but really are following the script above.
4) The second hardest part is dealing with having to explain why you would use "premillineal dispensationalist" instead of taking time to explain the whole system of theology.
"“I see what you’re saying. But I think Augustine might disagree.” Then just walk away. Don’t look back."
hahahahaha! That is amazing and so very hilarious! Great guest post!
So was I predestined to find this hilarious, or am I laughing of my own free will?
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I’m just going with, “huh?”
Clearly, “Tertullianized” is the verb form of Tertullian.
Just saying